McFeely Mess podcast: 'Pain is often the impetus for change,' Tony Bender says regarding North Dakota politics

Columnist talks fellow columnist back from the edge of the political abyss

Rural North Dakota newspaper publisher and columnist Tony Bender joins podcast host Mike McFeely to discuss the political landscape of the state and whether, as McFeely believes, it is headed toward being "a northern Mississippi." Bender says something that would change the politics of North Dakota is if the state felt some pain because of current policies. He's not hoping for that, but history shows it to be true.