Plain Talk: Sen. Cramer says Trump's tweet about Fisher Industries border wall controversy is 'only mildly interesting to me'

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Michael Fisher, Tommy Fisher, U.S. Sen. Kevin Cramer and U.S. Rep. Kelly Armstrong pose on a piece of heavy equipment outside Fisher Industries in Dickinson, N.D., in this July 2018 photo posted to a Twitter account run by Armstrong. Michael Fisher was convicted of tax fraud in 2009 and a company spokesman said he is no longer affiliated with Fisher Sand & Gravel or any of its subsidiaries. The spokesman said Michael Fisher and other family members visited Fisher Industries after a parade to view the company's display for the border wall.
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In a recent tweet , President Donald Trump criticized a portion of wall built along the American southern border by a private group of his supporters.

"I disagreed with doing this very small (tiny) section of the wall, in a tricky area, by a private group which raised money by ads," Trump wrote, responding to media reports claiming this section of the wall is facing problems from erosion. "It was only done to make me look bad, and perhaps it now doesn't even work. Should have been built like the rest of the Wall, 500 plus miles."

This portion of the wall was built by Fisher Industries, a North Dakota company that has also received contracts from the federal government to build hundreds of miles of southern border wall.


"I don't know what got into the president," Sen. Kevin Cramer said when asked about the situation on this episode of Plain Talk.

"It's only mildly interesting to me, to be honest," Cramer added, noting that he hasn't spoken to the president or any White House staff about the situation.

He did defend Fisher's wall construction, including the portion the president criticized. "I don't think he said anything about Fisher Industries specifically," Cramer said.

"The president is nothing if not spontaneous," Cramer replied when asked if the tweet frustrated him. "I don't get frustrated. He also speaks in hyperbole. A lot of people don't understand that."

Tommy Fisher, the CEO of Fisher Industries, was a guest of Cramer's at the 2018 State of the Union address . He has also made political donations to Cramer's campaign, as well as those of other North Dakota Republicans.

Cramer also discussed the Pentagon's new policy about which flags can be displayed at military bases that excludes Confederate flags and the roller-coaster legal fight over the Dakota Access Pipeline.


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Rob Port is a news reporter, columnist, and podcast host for the Forum News Service. He has an extensive background in investigations and public records. He has covered political events in North Dakota and the upper Midwest for two decades. Reach him at Click here to subscribe to his Plain Talk podcast.
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